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Old May 25, 2005, 11:28 PM // 23:28   #381
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Muke if you have disruptive chop just randomly use some crappy axe and try to get it on his hammer bash so he can't waste his adrenline.
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Old May 26, 2005, 05:16 PM // 17:16   #382
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I do not know if this has already been discovered/posted/discussed but I just found it out for myself a few days ago. This is the area right outside of the Ember Light Camp, if it is not perdition rock please correct me!

If you are looking for skills in the area right outside of the ember light camp in the ring of fire, there is a very easy way to do it. Go directly outside of town, and make a right, run across the edge, making sure you do not draw the hydra there. Hold the key you use to show enemy names, and keep running into the flesh golems. Run at the first group, and you will see 2 more groups of names, the one on the left is where a boss spawns (either flesh golem or the variant of wind rider). You will see either a boss name with 2 or 3 minions, or just minions. If you see the name of an elite you need a skill from, run past the first group of golems, and call target on a minion near that boss (don't target the boss). The henches will run up and start attacking the minions, and you need to target but do not attack the boss. Now simply wait for the boss to use the elite and grab it. This is way way easer than fighting through the whole area.

The boss that spawns is random, so you will have to keep running or tele'ing back to town, but here is a trick for anybody with a friend/guild mate available. Simply put the 2 of you and henches in the group, have one stand still right outside of the town when you leave (so that they do not draw the hences), and have the other do the run. Find out what the boss is, tell your friend, and if either of you needs it the friend will run over. But if you don't need it, the friend can go back in town and save you the trip back and/or the time rejoining henches if you tele.

Make sure you bring the Prot and Healer henches, you don't want the hences to die, just to cause minimal damage so you can snag the elite.

I am on my college's campus right now so I can't give you pictures and details more than this, its pretty easy to figure out but I will try to put more detail into it.

As a Mo/Me I was able to get (in one night):
Amity
Martyr (bring a hexer hench, cultist)
Signet of Midnight
Power Block

Hope this helps!

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Old May 26, 2005, 05:40 PM // 17:40   #383
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Xennon,

ur website is great, but, i been trying to get BattleRage for 3 days now, i have spamed siged it to death, still nothing, are u sure this is the right mob?
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Old May 26, 2005, 05:48 PM // 17:48   #384
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I have gone on a spamming session for both of these bosses -- and coincidentally, I had the EXACT same idea as you have, several days ago

However, someone on The Guild Hall JUST posted that they captured BR from Smurkk Foombul (well, he didn't state the name, but I'm assuming it's this) in Snake Dance; just responded asking him for details, since after going back I'm still not getting anything from him. -Aries
how come the pic of the guy capturing BR doesn't look like this
http://img261.echo.cx/my.php?image=gw9122vd.jpg
with the bosses name on the top and the little icon under the name and then the skill unlocked under it,
the pic u showed only have the skill unlocked on it?
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Old May 26, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19   #385
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because he killed him right after he got the skill, apparently. It seems like he uses it when he has very low health if it's true that he has it. Someone came into Thunderhead Keep the other night boasting about how he just got 3 of his elite skills in one run through Snake Dance. Paraphrased conversation:

him: i just got battle rage, earthshaker, and something else in 1 run through snake dance
me: who'd you beat battle rage out of? :P
him: kor
him: no wait, a giant
him: er troll
me: a troll or a giant?
him: smuuk
him: troll
him: kor has earthshaker
me: how'd you get him to use it?
him: he used it when he got down to 25% health
him: just spam soc
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Old May 26, 2005, 07:23 PM // 19:23   #386
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Zfactor. hold alt as you're leaving the Ember Light Camp. you'll see a sign post that says "Perdition Rock". that is the area you speak of.
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Old May 26, 2005, 08:43 PM // 20:43   #387
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Update on Orbhit Barkwood - He does *not* use defy pain. Me and a few warriors went out and got to him. We all had disrupting chop. Nearly the whole fight he was without hameer bash (and therefore had ample adrenaline to use defy pain). Further we removed his healing signet with disrupting as well. So, he had the adrenaline to use the skill and he also had no other way of healing himself and still did not use the skill. The fight went on for around 15 minutes with us ocasionally knocking him lower in health to check and make sure if he would use it based on a %health req. No good there either. Also, after about 10ish minutes he simply stops using healing signet altogether.

Guys, here's the thing for those that know anything about programming. A lot of it, especially AI scripts are as follows. If X happens then Y. If Y happens then Z etc.

If he can't heal and has adr but cant hammer bash then = defy pain. It TRULY is THAT simple.

I don't doubt that people have gotten it from him. However, that zone has been patched to hell over the past couple of weeks to anyone that doesn't know. For example, the arcanists now use crippling anguish where they did not previously. Some other small tweaks I've noticed as well but my point stands. So if he did have it he doesn't now.
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Old May 26, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23   #388
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Hey, I just got Defy Pain literally 10 minutes ago from Orbhit Barkwood, don't have a screenshot or anything but I used disrupting chop on him. I think it's very hard tocap, because it seemd to me that he used it right before he used healing sig, and healing sig doesn't take too long to cast. It took me probably 7 tries to get it from him, but this was my first try with disrupting chop.

I think that you might need to use disrupting chop because it only takes 6 adrenaline while defy pain takes 7, so it seems like the boss will use hammer bash before it'd use defy pain for this reason.

It's there, and I hope this helps.

-Uncle Melty

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Old May 26, 2005, 10:23 PM // 22:23   #389
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the bosses name for punishing shot is "Ivan or Ivor Frostshot" or something along that. Apparently he is in traveleres vale, outside yaks bend. as i was going to get him, that boss seem to have dissappeared or something...the area was nerfed. search travelers vale ppl, i know im going to.
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Old May 26, 2005, 10:27 PM // 22:27   #390
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because he killed him right after he got the skill, apparently. It seems like he uses it when he has very low health if it's true that he has it. Someone came into Thunderhead Keep the other night boasting about how he just got 3 of his elite skills in one run through Snake Dance. Paraphrased conversation:

him: i just got battle rage, earthshaker, and something else in 1 run through snake dance
me: who'd you beat battle rage out of? :P
him: kor
him: no wait, a giant
him: er troll
me: a troll or a giant?
him: smuuk
him: troll
him: kor has earthshaker
me: how'd you get him to use it?
him: he used it when he got down to 25% health
him: just spam soc

lol earthshaker is no where in snake dance
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Old May 26, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #391
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Yeah it is in snake dance, Kor Stonewrath has it, or at least that's where and who I got it from.

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Old May 26, 2005, 10:29 PM // 22:29   #392
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how come the pic of the guy capturing BR doesn't look like this
http://img261.echo.cx/my.php?image=gw9122vd.jpg
with the bosses name on the top and the little icon under the name and then the skill unlocked under it,
the pic u showed only have the skill unlocked on it?
40 times no luck at getting this skill, thats insane, well i'm going to write GW and ask them to fix it,
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Old May 26, 2005, 10:31 PM // 22:31   #393
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Anyone know where I can get Warriors endurance? Someone said some custodian guy, where is he again? I'll go try and get him to do it.

Just need this and Battle rage now, so close, but so far away

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Old May 26, 2005, 11:56 PM // 23:56   #394
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Yep Earthshaker is still in Snake Dance from Kor the big stupid giant who never wants to spawn close to the start untill you kill him and not get the skill because you got knocked down

Though I have no proof I have no doubt warriors endurance is in thristy river because he is the only boss there with no elite found so far and all elites there are unquie to thristy river and elona.
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Old May 27, 2005, 01:03 AM // 01:03   #395
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Yep Earthshaker is still in Snake Dance from Kor the big stupid giant who never wants to spawn close to the start untill you kill him and not get the skill because you got knocked down

Though I have no proof I have no doubt warriors endurance is in thristy river because he is the only boss there with no elite found so far and all elites there are unquie to thristy river and elona.
ok, my bad then, sorry
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Old May 27, 2005, 02:10 AM // 02:10   #396
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can someone tell me what all the hammer skills and healing skills do? also where is perdition rock?
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Old May 27, 2005, 03:14 AM // 03:14   #397
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Check here, it's a database of all the skills http://www.guildwarsguru.com/skill.php

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Old May 27, 2005, 06:47 AM // 06:47   #398
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Obrhit Barkwood just used defy pain and me and a friend got it. Here's the lowdown on our seventh and finally succesful try:

Must bring disrupting chop. You need to disrupt hammer bash. Every five normal swings means the sixth will be hammer bash (assuming he has ample life). So, when he hits you five times, hit disrupting chop so that you disrupt his sixth attack which will be hammer bash. You MUST do this VERY early in the fight, he will use defy pain when he drops to about 75% life *IF HAMMER BASH* has been disrupted. If you take him too much below that just run away, let him heal up, and start over. Just make sure to disrupt hammer bash early and then mash signet.

My friend kept missing it so I had to get him to do it multiple times. Of the four times he cast it it was always around or above 75% health. Near the beginning of the fight. I hope this helps.
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Old May 27, 2005, 06:58 AM // 06:58   #399
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Any more news on Warrior's endurance? I brought my mesmer friend to the custidian guy in elonas, but still no luck, don't know what else to try, anyone else have suggestions?

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Old May 27, 2005, 07:30 AM // 07:30   #400
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Damnit melty I JUST got done doing the same thing and was coming here to post about it. :P

Me and you should hook up in game if we're going after these skills.

Anyway, the fight was about 15 minutes or so and I had the mesmer drain energy totally. He did this when dellus was near full health, again at 75% , 50%, 25%, and 5%. I was also spamming Fear Me. Warriors Endurance costs mana so occasionally I'd tell him to stop draining completely and I'd do the same and then I'd go back to spamming SoC. No go whole time.

This doesnt necassarily disprove that he has it. If I've learned anything from skill capture thus far it's that Anet needs to pull their heads out of their asses and make this easier...er I mean I've learned that it takes multiple times for them to use the skill. :P
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